Saimoe Fantasy 2012: Prelims II (Updated!)

Also, important announcement. (UPDATED!)

Same rules and scoring applies as per the first eight preliminary groups.

Submit your group 9-16 entries here.

You can view your entries here.

List of prelim groupings here.

Post a comment here if you are to make changes to your line-up.

Current time in Japan (GMT+9)

Important dates:

Submit form by 21 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 9 modifications: 21 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 10 modifications: 22 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 11 modifications: 23 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 12 modifications: 24 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 13 modifications: 25 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 14 modifications: 26 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 15 modifications: 27 July 01:00hrs GMT+9
Deadline for Group 16 modifications: 28 July 01:00hrs GMT+9


Some of you have raised concerns, so I’ll address them here.

Q: Allowing modifications to be made are kinda unfair… I CAN’T MEET THE DEADLINE

A: Well, the prelim round is always a huge unknown, so I thought it would be fair for those who haven’t been watching much anime lately to get a feel of the proceedings and then amend their entries accordingly.

Furthermore, this was done at a short notice – the draw was made only a few days before prelims begun, so there was not much time for people to really think about their entries.

In any case, I’ll consider implementing a policy where no changes can be made 24 hours before the kick-off time starting from the main round onwards.

Q: Will my scores from the prelims be carried over to the next round?

A: No. This is to encourage more participants to take part in the fantasy game. There are people who only start following Saimoe proceedings from the main round.

Q: Then what’s the point of this?

A: Originally, my plan was as such: Participants who finish in the Top 5 (excluding me) during the prelims will be entitled to a privilege/bonus in the main round. These privileges/bonuses are not guaranteed points, but they will provide participants the chance to earn additional points.

However, frustra highlighted that some of you might be against this, so he has proposed another alternative where prelim scores are not counted at all. The winner of the prelims will be crowned the Prelim Champ and everyone will begin on a clean slate.

In any case, the scoring system for subsequent stages of the fantasy game will be consistent throughout. There will also be no double penalization as was with the case in last year’s game (specifically referring to the case where your entries from Phase I were brought over to Phase II).


Thanks for the feedback. After much consideration, I have decided on the following:

To reward those who have done well during the prelims, the one who finishes top will be declared the Prelim Champ and his/her name will enter the record books.  Also, the Top 3 participants will receive a single opportunity to earn additional points in the next round. They will be able to declare a ‘no penalty riichi’ ONCE, which means that they stand a chance to earn an extra 10 points maximum if their entry for the selected match-day corresponds to the results. As you can see, it’s not an excessive reward in order to be fair to the newcomers.

The format and scoring system for the next round will be similar to that of the prelims, but in this case you will be predicting the winners of the match-ups for a particular day. More on that when the time comes.

Also, continue commenting away on the deadline issue.


35 thoughts on “Saimoe Fantasy 2012: Prelims II (Updated!)

  1. The Bleeding Edge (@tldranimu) July 16, 2012 / 4:30 pm

    Modifications are fine by me, honestly I tend to stick to my guns, win or lose. As for “the proposal” I can honestly go either way, in the interest of fair play to those who don’t bother with preliminary rounds, starting from the main tournament is fair and that’s fine. Perhaps you could average out a score at the end that takes those who participated in the preliminaries and those who did not but still get a winner from that? Starting all from the main round might be easier though. I’d try to do maths, but I’m busy doing sequels, can only think in SELECTs right now =/

  2. Kaosu July 16, 2012 / 9:48 pm

    I’d be fine with the bonuses if they were balanced and I definitely support modifications. 24H limit is ok with me too.

    • Kaosu July 16, 2012 / 11:14 pm

      Actually nvm, there should be no 24H limit. Modifications: yes. Timelimit: No

      I’m never on in time for modifications anyways, but I don’t want it to be there in case I am online.

  3. timbits July 17, 2012 / 3:33 am

    I’m against bonuses myself, as some people do participate only once the main bracket starts, by giving bonuses you’re essentially not including the people who join in then since they were never given the chance to get the bonus. 24 hour limit makes sense, although it could really be reduced to 12 hours or so and achieve the same effect.

  4. MadPanda July 17, 2012 / 5:03 am

    I agree with frusta’s idea…kinda like baseball’s spring training before the season begins; once the bell rings, everyone starts fresh. As far as time limits go, I’d go with 12 hours…gives some time to check out new characters (or revisit old ones) before jumping in.

    MadPanda…(scouting the talent from behind the dugout)…

  5. ppaaccoojrf July 18, 2012 / 6:21 am

    I think if bonuses are balanced no one would really mind them, and it is actually fair for the winners. Either way is fine though. And modifications with the 24h time limit seems perfect in my opinion.

    What I’d like is making submissions a secret until the round finishes (or better, after the modification time limit). I think it’d make the competition a lot more interesting, with more variety and fresh opinions and whatnot. Please give it some thought.

    • LuniazKun July 18, 2012 / 10:48 am

      That’s definitely an interesting proposal, but unfortunately it’s not feasible as every participant would have to communicate with me personally (eg. via email) to confirm and make changes to their entries. Some might not even bother to check their mails at all, lol.

      However, if you want to spring a surprise, you can do what frustra is currently doing for the prelims now – only revealing his entries for the day’s match-up an hour before the deadline.

  6. Negligence July 20, 2012 / 1:31 pm

    I’d like to change my predictions for:
    Group 9: Nyaruko, Takei Hisa, Yamada Aoi (no riichi)
    Group 15: Hasegawa Kobato, Sagimori Arata, Shirakiin Ririchiyo (no riichi)

    • LuniazKun July 20, 2012 / 1:40 pm


  7. Kaosu July 20, 2012 / 3:50 pm

    Changing Group 9: Nyaruko, Yamada Aoi, Takei Hisa (no riichi)

    Yes, I admit I was scared off by the lack of confidence in Yui.

    • LuniazKun July 20, 2012 / 4:32 pm

      okay done

  8. LuniazKun July 21, 2012 / 3:30 pm

    Just a simple change for my Group 10 line-up: I’m declaring riichi.

    frus’ Group 10 line-up: Matsumi Kuro, Fukuji Mihoko, Kuuko (in that order). Riichi: Yes

  9. Martinawa July 22, 2012 / 2:40 pm

    I want to change group 11 prediction:

    1-Ryuuka Shizumidani
    3-Sena Airi

    • LuniazKun July 22, 2012 / 3:25 pm


  10. LuniazKun July 22, 2012 / 3:28 pm

    fru’s entry for Group 11: Shizumidani Ryuuka, Sena Airi, Nakano Azusa (in that order, no riichi)

  11. Kaosu July 22, 2012 / 3:41 pm

    Group 11: Ryuuka, Airi, Sanya (no riichi)

    • LuniazKun July 22, 2012 / 3:48 pm


  12. timbits July 22, 2012 / 5:09 pm

    I would like to declare riichi for group 14.

    • LuniazKun July 22, 2012 / 5:16 pm


  13. LuniazKun July 23, 2012 / 3:40 pm

    fru’s entry for Group 12: Haramura Nodoka, Kashizawaki Sena, Alice (in that order, no riichi)

  14. abc0716 July 23, 2012 / 11:24 pm

    Would like to change my lineups on Group 14 into….

    Astarotte Ygvar (Lotte), Katsura Hinagiku, Ghutatan

  15. Kaosu July 23, 2012 / 11:56 pm

    Group 13: Momoko, Tsumiki, Nadeko (no riichi)

  16. LuniazKun July 24, 2012 / 8:46 am

    ^ Done for both

  17. Micchi July 24, 2012 / 3:24 pm

    Modification for Group 13:

    1. Touyoko Momoko
    2. Sengoku Nadeko
    3. Hanada Kirame すばらです!

    No riichi.

    • LuniazKun July 24, 2012 / 3:46 pm



      My modified Group 13 entry: Momoko, Kirame, Nadeko (in that order, no riichi)
      fru’s Group 13 entry: Kirame, Momoko, Nadeko (in that order, no riichi)

  18. LuniazKun July 25, 2012 / 3:48 pm

    My modified Group 14 entry: Hinagiku, Lotte, Mio (in that order, no riichi)
    fru’s Group 14 entry: Lotte, Hinagiku, Mio (in that order, no riichi)

  19. Kaosu July 25, 2012 / 3:50 pm

    Group 15 entry: Kobato, Ririchiyo, Arata
    Group 16 entry: Akari, Tomoka, Karuta

    And that’s a riichi desu wa! For group 14, 15, 16.

    Might as well go all in 🙂

    • Kaosu July 25, 2012 / 3:52 pm

      And group 14: Changing third place to Mio (damit I don’t want to pick a K-ON! character so much <_<)

      • LuniazKun July 25, 2012 / 3:55 pm

        Done! All the best, brave soul.

  20. Martinawa July 26, 2012 / 12:54 pm

    Change for group 15: 1-Ririchiyo Shirakiin, 2-Kobato Hasegawa, 3-Arata Sagimori and Declare Riichi.

    • LuniazKun July 26, 2012 / 2:57 pm

      All right, done!!

  21. LuniazKun July 26, 2012 / 3:57 pm

    Here I go, RIICHI-ing Group 15.

    fru’s Group 15 entry: Arata, Kobato, Sonya (in that order, no riichi)

  22. Negligence July 27, 2012 / 1:28 pm

    For group 16: Akaza Akari, Roromiya Karuta, Minato Tomoka (no riichi)

    • LuniazKun July 27, 2012 / 2:29 pm


  23. LuniazKun July 27, 2012 / 3:46 pm

    fru’s Group 16 entry: Akarin, Karuta, Tomoka (in that order + riichi)
    My modified Group 16 entry: Akarin, Karuta, Saginomiya Isumi (in that order + riichi)

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